Early Greek Philosophy (Penguin Classics)

Required for coursework for 2nd year of philosophy degree, well presented with introduction and notes

A good introduction to early Greek, pre-socratic philosophy by an expert in both Greek philosophy and language.

In this book, Barnes presents an insightful and scholarly account of the different views of the philosophers which preceded the Athenian trio. These works range from the predecessors of Greek philosophy to Diogenes of Apollonia, including many of the greatest thinkers of the era. What is truly refreshing about this work is the citation of actual fragments of work from ancient philosophers, something which has been curiously lacking in the histories of philosophy. The presentation of, arguably, verbatim material gives the reader a greater understanding of the Greeks with whom they engage and allows for the construction of a true 'feel' of the philosophy. The selection within this work is also generous, whilst the majority of the work is concerned with the more plentiful fragments of major names such as Empedocles and Democritus, there is also mention of smaller intermediaries and commentaries on periods of time. These give the work a distinct charm and offer a more complete view of the development of the history of ancient Greek thought. Another great facet of this book is the scholarly nature of the writing, the authenticity of which is rare in philosophy books and once again provides another dimension to the reading. However, there are a few issues which this book encounters. Firstly, and inevitably, there is a confusing use of notation and text style in this work. These are necessary to differentiate between Barnes, commentator and actual Greek philosopher, but nonetheless it can prove troublesome. Furthermore, there is a lack of a concluding section. Whilst this is obviously not a tremendous injustice, Barnes' writing would have been a useful resolution to the book. Overall, this is a great product and one I would thoroughly recommend.

The introduction particularly is wonderful and the treatment of the subject fulsome. A great introduction to the early thinkers who shape our perception of the world.

“Early Greek Philosophy” by Jonathan Barnes is an overview of the surviving texts (fragments), ideas and lives of the earliest known Western Philosophers. More scientist than philosopher, these 6th century BC “Pre-Socratics” came from all over the Greek world and were the intellectual giants of their times. Starting with Thales of Miletus, the writer has given each philosopher his own stand-alone chapter, discussing all the available textual sources. The ideas, the logic and meanings are not always easy to understand, but Barnes’ introduction and excellent explanatory notes make this a joy to read and a good reference source. The result is a good introduction to the sources of Western philosophy ranging from Thales, Pythagoras, Anaxagoras, Xenophanes and Zeno, to Parmenides, Heraclites, Anaximander, Democritus and Empedocles. I was astonished by the originality, sophistication, and exoticism of their thinking, covering topics as varied as atomism, physics, cosmology, evolution, theology and epistemology. Their ideas and characters are never far away in Plato’s Socrates. He is either building on or criticising them, as happens for instance in " Theaetetus (Classics) ". “Early Greek Philosophy” is therefore essential reading for understanding Socrates and Plato and placing them in the wider context of the early Western philosophy and civilisation.

After over 2,500 years we have, for the most part, only fragments of the writings of these philosophers, yet their concerns and proposals are as philosophically relevant today as they ever were. Atomic, sub-atomic or even sub-sub-sub-atomic - is the pursuit of fundamental particles purely empirical, or can it be answer a priori by thought alone..? Can physical reality be regarded as infinitely divisible, or does reason require a finitely-sized and indivisible atomic? Any student of the physical/empirical sciences could benefit from these considerations of the boundary between thought and experience - a priori and a posteriori. This work by Jonathan Barnes is currently the definitive collection of these pre-Socratic writings.

This is an intriguing collection of Greek philosophy, which I can highly recommend for its entertaining accounts of muddled geniuses and their extant writings. I particularly enjoyed the section on Pythagoras, with the laugh-out-loud stories of limbs made of gold and weeping reincarnated warriors.

Perfect condition.

A heavily edited book with virtually nothing about the writers it's supposed to contain.

Une introduction à la fois vivante et bien documentée aux fragments des philosophes présocratiques. Ouvrage relativement récent et malheureusement peu connu en France

Awesome reading

The early Greek philosophers, thinkers like Thales, Anaximander, Pythagoras, Parmenides, Zeno, Empedocles, Leucippus, are foundational for the Western intellectual tradition. I couldn't imagine a better book then this one on the subject. Below are a few quotes from Jonathan Barnes's excellent 40 page introduction along with my brief comments: "First and most simply, the Presocratics invented the very idea of science and philosophy. They hit upon that special way of looking at the world which is the scientific and rational way. They saw the world as something ordered and intelligible, its history following an explicable course and its different parts arranged in a comprehensible system. The world was not a random collection of bits, its history was not an arbitrary jumble of events." ---------- This is central to their spirit of inquiry, an approach compatible with a modern physicist or chemist. "Nor was the world a series of events determined by the will or the caprice of the gods. The Presocratics were not atheists: they allowed the god into their brave new world, and some of them attempted to produce an improved and rationalized theology in place of the anthropomorphic divinities of the Olympian pantheon. But their theology had little to do with religion, and they removed most of the traditional functions of the gods. Their thunder was no longer the growling of a minatory Zeus." ----------- Again, the Presocratics have kindred spirits in the science departments at modern universities. Jonathan Barnes goes on to write how the Presocratics explained the world in ways that were systematic and economical, that is, these early philosophers wanted to "explain as much as possible in terms of as little as possible." Some of their key concepts were order (kosmos), nature (phusis), origins (arche) , and reason (logos). --------- These Greek words are supercharged with meaning. I used one English word for simplicity sake. How supercharged? The author does a fine job elaborating. The words of the Presocratics have come down to us as fragments. Here are several of my favorites: Xenophanes "But if cows and horses or lions had hands and drew with their hands or made the things men make, then horses would draw the forms of gods like horses, cows like cows, and each would make their bodies similar in shape to their own." Heraclitus "The uncomprehending, when they hear, are like the deaf. To them applies the saying: though present they are absent." Democritus "To a wise man the whole earth is accessible; for the country of a great soul is the whole world." "The desire for more destroys what is present - like Aesop's dog." "One should tell the truth, not speak at length."

Great book....superb...